Definitely on a different planet! On the planet earth I live on, and for whose people Christ died, I have some of the best discussions about faith and belief actually sharing a pint!
She's going to get one hell of a shock when she comes to the wedding feast of the Lamb!
I do enjoy sending hundreds of people to hell.[/irony]
I am glad it was not me sitting there to be approached and told that I was setting a bad example.While I don't drink, I would have been sorely tempted to pour whatever drink I had over her.Steet Evangelists do good work, but being judgmental does not help their cause one iota.
I don't remember anywhere in the Bible where it says you shouldn't drink alcohol. But It do remember Jesus being condemned by the self-righteous for drinking with sinners.
I'm so glad she said she is no longer an Anglican. Excuse me while I remove my earing so I can get to my pint!
Erk. Horrible advertising for us Aussies. And Homebush suburb yet.
"I don't know my Bible 100%, I know that." (5:35ish)If we're proof-texting, how about Matthew 11:18-19?"For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon'; the Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Look, a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and sinners!' Yet wisdom is vindicated by her deeds." Fermentation wasn't the same then? Evidence? (I have a Baptist minister friend who once tried to justify their strictures against using alcoholic wine for communion using this argument).If this woman is a genuine alcoholic I have some sympathy for her. But if it is simply to judge others then I have none. What would she have made of an invitation to sit down together and talk, I wonder? And who is teaching her this stuff?
It is depressing. I think I'll go and pour myself a pint ;)
Oh dear 'witnessing' meaning of course being really really miserable and making other people feel bad too... My experience of such 'witnessing' is that it is a very effective way of putting people off faith and seems to effectively bypass the life and joy of Christ!I am so outside of this orbit...I suspect I am on the infernal pathway, what with being a licensee and a Vicar...
Hold on a minute. Not sure that I would go about it that way, but.........I thought you were all supposed to be inclusive and tolerant.Except of her, obviously.She may have been a tad embarrassing, but underneath that rather bullish approach is a genuine desire to tell the gospel.M.R.
Where was the Monty Python boot?
MRBeing inclusive doesn't mean agreeing with everything, it means accepting that someone is part of your family even if you think they are desperately wrong.
Not holding them up for public ridicule then?MR
The YouTube is in the public domain and hence public comments are surely appropriate?
M.R. The lady in the video (which she presumably made public to spread her view of the Gospel) made disparaging comments about a CofE priest, and the CofE church nearby. There seems to be very little basis for these comments apart from her limited observation of the priest for a few moments and the church over the course of a weekday. Should she then be immune from criticism herself? She has one view of what 'witnessing' to the Gospel entails. Many people who have commented on the video have different view, and regard her methods as likely to deter people from believing, rather than encourage them to do so. That's not ridicule, it's fair comment.
I don't particularly agree with her style either. It may not be the most 'winsome' way to present the gospel.You see a judgemental woman making disparaging comments about a vicar and a nearby church. I see a woman who has not been well taught. She had to leave the Anglican Church to 'find' the gospel. I know many like her. Public domain or not, the tone of some of the comments is just as judgemental as you accuse her of being.Whats's that verse in Luke 19 about "if they keep quiet, even the stones will cry out".Perhaps this woman is one of those stones.MR
MRIf disagreeing with someone is being judgmental, then so be it.But that's not the same as being intolerant.I deeply disagree with this woman, with every single word she says and with how she says it.Just like she would disagree with me, with my life, with what I say, with how I say it.So what?Why do we have to be so terrified of others not agreeing with us?The world will go on if we have different views!What would be terrible is if one of us tried to impose our view on the other and disowned them or tried to throw them out of our church if they didn't think like we do.But that's not happening, is it.So chill. She's safe. Your views are safe.We just don't agree with them.
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